How, exactly, do you get normal people -- people for whom politics is only a small part of life and inherently blurry -- to "storm the beach in one go?" That stuff is only for the ideologue mentality or someone for whom politics is a business. And where is the beach, exactly? There's always a majority of normal people. But they can't pos…
How, exactly, do you get normal people -- people for whom politics is only a small part of life and inherently blurry -- to "storm the beach in one go?" That stuff is only for the ideologue mentality or someone for whom politics is a business. And where is the beach, exactly? There's always a majority of normal people. But they can't possibly devote the time and energy to party politics. WIth the Democrats, we've already seen multiple times effectively shutting down the Presidential primary process and allowing a handful of "leaders" to foreclose input from the rank and file voter. The MAGA takeover of the Repulbicans is due to Trump and Trump alone. Had Trump not appeared to organize and energize voters around his own personality and powerful leadership, it would simply have been another Tea Party movement.
You'd need a strong and charismatic leader for a Normie revolution. Nothing happens without leadership in politics. We saw what happened with No Labels. No leader, no action.
I agree with the leadership part. But I don't think about this like an army. I think about it more like a wave.
The model I have in mind is the historical nineteenth century Progressive Movement. It's not a top-down or unified political army. It's just a common cause of likeminded people woven together in a loose alliance. They are united as much around politics as around events, entertainment, magazines, and ideas. They produce leaders organically. Then when there are enough of them, they show up at the convention and take the party as the cynics among the political class work to coopt them.
That's how this kind of thing always works in history.
Hope you’re right and not inclined to argue. But the Progressive Movement stood for radical change — on child labor, labor conditions generally, liquor prohibition, women voting, direct election of senators, etc. etc.
Normalcy does not seem like a directed movement for radical change. Just a return to decency, tolerance, reduced ideological heat. To speak of a “Normie Movement” just doesn’t sound real to me.
You assume this has to be a top down effort. I'm talking about bottom up. Recapture city councils, school boards, county commissions, and thecmike. then let everything flow up.
We don't have to do party politics. Dan Osborn ran an incredibly competitive race for US debate from Nebraska as an independent. Check my Substack. I'm working on giving everyone the tools so they can storm the beaches!
How, exactly, do you get normal people -- people for whom politics is only a small part of life and inherently blurry -- to "storm the beach in one go?" That stuff is only for the ideologue mentality or someone for whom politics is a business. And where is the beach, exactly? There's always a majority of normal people. But they can't possibly devote the time and energy to party politics. WIth the Democrats, we've already seen multiple times effectively shutting down the Presidential primary process and allowing a handful of "leaders" to foreclose input from the rank and file voter. The MAGA takeover of the Repulbicans is due to Trump and Trump alone. Had Trump not appeared to organize and energize voters around his own personality and powerful leadership, it would simply have been another Tea Party movement.
You'd need a strong and charismatic leader for a Normie revolution. Nothing happens without leadership in politics. We saw what happened with No Labels. No leader, no action.
I agree with the leadership part. But I don't think about this like an army. I think about it more like a wave.
The model I have in mind is the historical nineteenth century Progressive Movement. It's not a top-down or unified political army. It's just a common cause of likeminded people woven together in a loose alliance. They are united as much around politics as around events, entertainment, magazines, and ideas. They produce leaders organically. Then when there are enough of them, they show up at the convention and take the party as the cynics among the political class work to coopt them.
That's how this kind of thing always works in history.
Hope you’re right and not inclined to argue. But the Progressive Movement stood for radical change — on child labor, labor conditions generally, liquor prohibition, women voting, direct election of senators, etc. etc.
Normalcy does not seem like a directed movement for radical change. Just a return to decency, tolerance, reduced ideological heat. To speak of a “Normie Movement” just doesn’t sound real to me.
But, as I say. Hope I’m wrong.
You assume this has to be a top down effort. I'm talking about bottom up. Recapture city councils, school boards, county commissions, and thecmike. then let everything flow up.
We don't have to do party politics. Dan Osborn ran an incredibly competitive race for US debate from Nebraska as an independent. Check my Substack. I'm working on giving everyone the tools so they can storm the beaches!